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S05E09 In Conversation with the Land: The Philosophy of Wonder with Martin Lee Mueller | ANCEP

S05E09 In Conversation with the Land: The Philosophy of Wonder with Martin Lee Mueller | ANCEP

Update: 2024-11-22
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What does it mean to truly be “in” a place? In Norwegian, the phrase for being outdoors translates to "being in" - a profound reminder of our inherent connection to the world around us.


Today’s guest, Martin Lee Mueller, holds a PhD in philosophy and serves as the General Secretary for the Arne Næss Center for Ecology and Philosophy in Oslo, Norway. A philosopher, author, and storyteller, his work invites us to rediscover our reciprocal relationship with nature.


This episode was recorded outdoors, in conversation with the land. Among the topics we explored:



  • How to tune into a place.

  • The transformative questions that led Martin to the Nordic landscape and shaped his understanding of the interplay between culture and place.

  • Deep ecology as a Nordic branch of earth philosophy, inspired by Arne Næss and his love for the land.

  • The lessons lichen, salmon, and other elements of the natural world offer in challenging the notion of human separation and superiority.

  • Philosophy as a path to personal and collective liberation, breaking free from habits that no longer serve vitality.

  • The importance of raising generations capable of independent thought.


Martin also shares insights into the Arne Næss Center’s mission to build a school that take us from wonder to wisdom and his vision of 100 years of listening.


If you’re curious about deepening your connection to the world around you, this episode is rich with inspiration and practical steps to begin.


For show notes & links visit TNM official website

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S05E09 In Conversation with the Land: The Philosophy of Wonder with Martin Lee Mueller | ANCEP

S05E09 In Conversation with the Land: The Philosophy of Wonder with Martin Lee Mueller | ANCEP

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